{"id":2418,"date":"2008-11-24T21:35:56","date_gmt":"2008-11-24T21:35:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.adambowie.com\/2008\/11\/radio_2_audienc\/"},"modified":"2008-11-24T21:35:56","modified_gmt":"2008-11-24T21:35:56","slug":"radio_2_audienc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.adambowie.com\/blog\/2008\/11\/radio_2_audienc\/","title":{"rendered":"Radio 2 Audiences and The Age of Listening"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting question related to the Ross\/Brand affair. Yes, I know I said I was bored of the whole thing, but this is genuinely interesting.<br \/>\nDid Russell Brand actually cost Radio 2 listeners when he was on-air with them? (Or perhaps more reasonably, did he cost them listening hours, when regular Radio 2 listeners just tuned out until his show had finished?)<br \/>\nThis starts from a piece in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/bbctrust\/assets\/files\/pdf\/appeals\/esc_bulletins\/2008\/brand_ross_moyles.pdf\">BBC Trust report<\/a>. It notes that Brand&#8217;s Saturday night 9-11pm show &#8220;<em>attracted an average audience of around 400,000 listeners. Their average age was 50 and more than 40% were over 55. Just over half were women<\/em>.&#8221;<br \/>\nLooking at the RAJAR data for the most recent show, I see that Russell Brand reaches 382,000 listeners &#8211; close enough to the 400,000 the BBC quotes. The report states that the average age was 50, although I make the mean age (from reach with a base of adults 15+) to be 52. This is interesting because the mean age of the station overall is actually 50.<br \/>\nSo Russell Brand&#8217;s listeners were slightly older than the station average! I&#8217;d suggest that this comes of the scheduling of his show. Overall, 37.9% of Radio 2&#8217;s audience (based on reach, base &#8211; adults 15+) is aged under 45, but for Brand&#8217;s show this falls to 35.2%.<br \/>\nPut simply, younger people are more likely to be out at that time.<br \/>\nThis explains to a large extent, the numbers that then follow in the report:<br \/>\n&#8220;<em>The programme was made available on the BBC iPlayer for seven days after broadcast. The edition of 18 October 2008 received 33,000 requests from UK-based users and a total of 44,000 around the world. It was also made available as a podcast for seven days from Monday 20 October and was downloaded 130,000 times in the UK and a total of 168,000 times around the world.<\/em>&#8221;<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s fair to assume that these podcast and iPlayer listeners are younger than average. Let&#8217;s assume their average age was 30. That&#8217;d mean that the overall average age of Brand&#8217;s listeners would still be relatively high at 45. It&#8217;s worth noting that Brand&#8217;s weekly podcast was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/radio\/siteusage\/\">second only<\/a> to Radio 4&#8217;s Friday Night Comedy.<br \/>\nYou might be sitting there thinking &#8211; well that&#8217;s not <em>that<\/em> old (Ross is 48 after all). But a mean is only the average. A very  significant proportion of those listeners are likely to be 45 or older. As the Trust report notes, over 40% of the RAJAR live listeners were over 55.<br \/>\nBut let&#8217;s return to that 400,000 &#8211; or 382,000 anyway. How does the same 9pm-11pm slot do between Monday and Sunday? (I&#8217;ve put shows in brackets, but Radio 2&#8217;s schedule does change fairly regularly, so I&#8217;ve listed programmes from the start of September which will be included in these RAJAR Q3 2008 figures).<br \/>\nMonday: 655,000 (Radcliffe &#038; Maconie\/Big Band Special\/Jamie Cullum)<br \/>\nTuesday: 643,000 (Radcliffe &#038; Maconie\/Nigel Ogden\/Various)<br \/>\nWednesday: 573,000 (Radcliffe &#038; Maconie\/Trevor Nelson&#8217;s Soul Show)<br \/>\nThursday: 559,000 (Radcliffe &#038; Maconie\/Mark Lamarr Reggae)<br \/>\nFriday: 509,000 (Friday Night is Music Night\/Various\/The Weekend w\/Claudia Winkleman)<br \/>\nSaturday: 382,000 (Russell Brand)<br \/>\nSunday: 511,000 (Russell Davies\/Malcolm Laycock)<br \/>\nSo clearly Saturday night is Radio 2&#8217;s lowest night of the week for that time-slot &#8211; by a significant margin.<br \/>\nBut hang-on. Is that Brand&#8217;s fault, or is it just because Saturdays are a poor night for radio listening in general because we&#8217;re all out, or watching X-Factor\/Casualty or entertaining or whatever?<br \/>\nBrand joined Radio 2 in November 2006. So let&#8217;s choose Q3 2006 &#8211; covering the period just before Brand started at Radio 2. Sadly, I don&#8217;t have listings for who precisely <em>was<\/em> on the station at that time, but nonetheless, I do have the numbers:<br \/>\nMonday: 636,000<br \/>\nTuesday: 600,000<br \/>\nWednesday: 581,000<br \/>\nThursday: 581,000<br \/>\nFriday: 491,000<br \/>\nSaturday: 358,000<br \/>\nSunday: 586,000<br \/>\nSo poor Saturdays aren&#8217;t Brand&#8217;s fault. There are simply fewer listeners to be had on a Saturday night at that time compared with any other day of the week.<br \/>\nBut the average age back then for a Saturday night was 56.<br \/>\nI think that this, in the end, is the most important thing. While the difference between 52 and 56 might not seem all that great &#8211; shifting average ages by even a single year is actually very hard to do. This is particularly the case with a large station with a loyal audience.<br \/>\nAn older listener who doesn&#8217;t want to hear speech (Radio 4\/Five Live\/talkSPORT) or classical music (Radio 3\/Classic FM) only really has Radio 2 aimed at them on a national scale. Certainly there are services like Smooth or even Magic that also target that audience to a certain extent. But nobody else does it quite so well.<br \/>\nSo why not serve that audience with something they want at 9pm on a Saturday night rather than desperately trying to attract a younger audience?<br \/>\nNow Radio 2 would probably fairly point out that Russell was bringing new listeners to its station. But I still wonder if he wasn&#8217;t better suited to 6Music whose average audience age of 35 is closer to Brand&#8217;s &#8211; he&#8217;s 33? Or maybe even Radio 1 (average age&#8230; er, 33 &#8211; base: adults 15+)?<br \/>\nYou shouldn&#8217;t solely concern yourselves with demographics of course. Older performers can be perfectly well be appreciated by younger viewers and listeners (witness all the crooners who find a new lease of life when they perform at Glastonbury), but let&#8217;s not forget the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/info\/statements2008\/radio\/radio2.shtml\">service remit of Radio 2<\/a>:<br \/>\n&#8220;<em>The remit of Radio 2 is to be a distinctive, mixed music and speech service, targeted at a broad audience, appealing to all age groups over 35.<\/em>&#8221;<br \/>\nIf I&#8217;m aged 70, and don&#8217;t want to listen to classical music, then Radio 2 remains the service for me.<br \/>\nPerhaps when the BBC next looks at its statements of policy, it should take account of the older audience to a greater extent. There are already <a href=\"http:\/\/www.statistics.gov.uk\/cci\/nugget.asp?ID=949\">more pensioners than there are under-16s<\/a>, and the fastest growing age-group in the UK is <em>80+<\/em>! This age-group has grown from 2.8% of the population to 4.5% of the population in the last 25 years. Sadly, pensioners have little spare income, which don&#8217;t make them an attractive audience for most commercial radio operators (witness the decline of <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Saga_DAB_radio\">Saga Radio<\/a> which attempted to target 50+). So it&#8217;s almost certainly going to need to be the BBC which picks up the slack and reaches out to this growing audience.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting question related to the Ross\/Brand affair. Yes, I know I said I was bored of the whole thing, but this is genuinely interesting. Did Russell Brand actually cost Radio 2 listeners when he was on-air with them? 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