New BBC News Blogs – A Retrograde Update

BBC News is seemingly completing its movement of correspondents’ blogs across to the a new system. And frankly, they’ve made some significantly retrograde steps.
I’d happily acknowledge that previously the blogs were somewhat hidden, and lots of website readers were probably missing out. And I know that this has meant a shift in the backend with an end to using Movable Type, and the use of a internal solution. I’ve no problem with either of those changes. And the blogs make much better use of the screen real-estate. Design-wise, I again have no problem.
But here are the significant issues I do have:

  • The pathetic 400 character limit for commenting. I rarely commented on BBC blogs, but nonetheless, much as I love Twitter, just under 3 x Tweets in length for making sometimes quite complex points isn’t enough. It certainly concentrates the mind, but frankly I think it panders to a society where complicated points have to be reduced to a soundbite. Reading the comments is what makes blogs different. I would never want comments under news stories (there are plenty of newspaper websites who go too far in this regard). But personal authored blogs are very different.
  • The lack of RSS feeds. In fact, it turns out that most of the blogs do have RSS feeds. But they’re hidden from browsers. My browser doesn’t auto-discover them (I’m using Firefox 4). A trivial piece of code in the header of the page would sort this out. Initially, they weren’t even there at all. Phil Coomes’ photography blog is a case in point. He’s been busily publishing, but I’ve missed him because RSS feeds weren’t ready when his blog moved. That was unforgiveable. I’m sure I’m not alone in having not kept track of his blog over the last week or two. People who use RSS feeds tend to use them a lot and follow sometimes hundreds of sites.
  • The lack of RSS feed redirection. GIven that it turns out that there are RSS feeds, why on earth didn’t the BBC use RSS re-direction? If I missed the message in the last blog under the old system that gave details of the move, I’ve effectively been unsubcribed from that blog.
  • The removal of full-text from the RSS feed. It’s not as though the BBC has to drive advertising and desperately needs the site traffic (Many commerical sites like The Guardian include full text and an ad in any case). A simple rule of thumb is that the less information you provide in your RSS feed, the less likely I am to read it – it’s much easier to click on through looking for something to read. Unless your blog has a very high publishing rate (and many of the main BBC news pages absolutely do fulfill this criteria), then it’s unlikely I’m going to find your musings – published at most two or three times in a day, and usually much less often – too much for my RSS reader. Indeed, by publishing the full text, and getting me engaged in the article, I’m actually more likely to click through and read the comments. This is quite possibly the worst step of all, and is already resulting in me reading less.

There are other things. I prefer my comments to flow in the order they were published. The reverse means that to follow the discussion, I have to first read the piece, then scroll to the bottom of the page, and then scroll back up. Of course with comment voting, that can mean comments can end up all over the place. Perhaps there’s a way for me to choose this option (as some websites offer)? I don’t know where it it is though. And surely by now, the BBC’s player should be able to work in RSS readers like Google Reader?
But those are trivial compared with the main points above. A real shame.


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5 responses to “New BBC News Blogs – A Retrograde Update”

  1. Adam Bowie avatar

    Hopefully a lot of these will be changed. But it’ll be interesting to read the follow-up. I’m clearly not alone.

  2. James Cridland avatar

    By “BBC” above, you mean “BBC News”; no other part of the BBC website is making this change.
    “It’s not as though the BBC has to drive advertising and desperately needs the site traffic” – except the BBC News website is part-funded by advertising, which is visible outside the UK. They even have a separate front-page if you’re in the US. This money does, eventually, drip back into the public service.
    The BBC has never offered full RSS feeds of its news stories, and their new blogging ‘platform’, if that’s what it is, appears to be simply built on their news content management system. Partially, they don’t own the rights to syndicate in this way; and BBC News is an organisation that’s paranoid about people using its content in unauthorised ways: you’ll notice that news content is almost invisible in the BBC iPlayer, timing out after less than one day.
    Finally, Firefox 4 does not auto-discover ANY RSS feeds by default: you now have to turn that feature on. Any right-minded person would use Chrome, in any case. 😉

  3. Adam Bowie avatar

    I’ve amended the above to reflect BBC News. And of course, outside the UK there is advertising. But that can be accommodated within the RSS feeds as desired. I know some other people manage this…
    Putting full text RSS feeds for fast flowing news channels is less of a problem. I don’t expect the RSS feed of BBC World News to include it. I subscribe to that feed, and simply scan the headlines and click through to read.
    But blogs are different. The rate is usually much slower – especially when they’re written by a single correspondent. The blogs penned by correspondents, are all, as far as I’m aware, written by fulltime employees of the BBC, so there’s no risk of agency copy being inadvertantly handed out.
    And Firefox does auto-discover RSS feeds by default. It’s just changed the way it does it and called it “Subscribe to this page” within Bookmarks. I must admit that I don’t like that, and have placed an RSS button on my toolbar, but your mileage may vary. (Until Chrome has the range of plugins that Firefox has, I’ll stick with what I’ve got thank!).

  4. Tony Moorey avatar

    The comments limit in itself is infuriating. A 400 character limit explicitly says that the views of the audience are less important than those of the journalist.
    On a more functional levels this will lead to awkward summarising of complicated issues. If Giles Watson, BBC features editor believes that “this makes for sharper contributions” why not impose that limit for the blogs’ authors too?